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Media Matters reports: "President Obama recently outlined his proposal that would give millions of homeowners a chance to save thousands of dollars annually by refinancing their mortgages at a lower interest rate even if their homes are currently underwater. The right-wing media immediately went on the attack, claiming that Obama's mortgage relief plan is a political stunt being used to 'pander' to voters during an election year."

Rush Limbaugh takes a trip to Washington, 03/03/09. (photo: Saul Loeb/Getty/AFP)
Rush Limbaugh takes a trip to Washington, 03/03/09. (photo: Saul Loeb/Getty/AFP)



Obama's Mortgage Relief Plan: Right-Wing Media Attacks

By Media Matters for America

05 February 12

 

President Obama recently outlined his proposal that would give millions of homeowners a chance to save thousands of dollars annually by refinancing their mortgages at a lower interest rate even if their homes are currently underwater. The right-wing media immediately went on the attack, claiming that Obama's mortgage relief plan is a political stunt being used to "pander" to voters during an election year.

bama Announces Mortgage Relief Plan To Deal With "Massive" Housing Problem

AP: Obama Proposal Would Create "An Annual Savings Of About $3,000 For The Average Borrower." From a February 1 Associated Press article:

President Barack Obama called on Congress Wednesday to make it easier for millions of additional homeowners to refinance their mortgages at lower interest rates even if they owe more than their homes are worth. He conceded that his administration's housing plans so far have not lived up to their promise.

Calling the housing problem "massive in size and in scope," Obama detailed a proposal he outlined in his State of the Union speech last week, tackling an issue of vital concern in states key to his re-election.

"This housing crisis struck right at the heart of what it means to be middle class in America: our homes," Obama said, speaking at a northern Virginia community center.

Obama's proposal would give homeowners with privately held mortgages a shot at record low rates though a new government program, for an annual savings of about $3,000 for the average borrower.

The program is the latest administration effort to help homeowners in the face of a massive number of foreclosures and plunging house values that have left millions of borrowers owing more than their homes are worth. The administration plan aims to ease the way toward refinancing for borrowers, who despite good credit have been unable to take advantage of lower rates because they are underwater on their loans or because banks fear they will be left taking losses.

[...]

The administration estimates that 3.5 million borrowers with privately-held mortgages have high enough interest rates that they would have incentive to refinance under the new plan. That's in addition to 11 million borrowers who have Fannie- or Freddie-guaranteed loans who could be eligible for refinancing under the administration's proposed changes.

About 11 million Americans - roughly 1 in 4 with a mortgage - are underwater, according to CoreLogic, a real estate data firm.

Half of all U.S. mortgages - about 30 million home loans - are owned by nongovernment lenders.

The new administration plan would permit homeowners to refinance their mortgages into loans backed by the Federal Housing Administration. To qualify, borrowers with privately held mortgages would have to have no more than one delinquency in the six months preceding refinancing. Their loans would have to fall within the mortgage limits set by the FHA in their home counties. [Associated Press, 2/1/12]

Obama's Proposal Would Also Give Relief To Renters And Homeowners Looking For Work. From a White House fact sheet on Obama's plan:

First Pilot Sale to Transition Foreclosed Property into Rental Housing to Help Stabilize Neighborhoods and Improve Home Prices: The FHFA, in conjunction with Treasury and HUD, is announcing a pilot sale of foreclosed properties to be transitioned into rental housing.

Moving the Market to Provide a Full Year of Forbearance for Borrowers Looking for Work: Following the Administration's lead, major banks and the GSEs are now providing up to 12 months of forbearance to unemployed borrowers.

Pursuing a Joint Investigation into Mortgage Origination and Servicing Abuses: This effort marshals new resources to investigate misconduct that contributed to the financial crisis under the leadership of federal and state co-chairs.

Rehabilitating Neighborhoods and Reducing Foreclosures: In addition to the steps outlined above, the Administration is expanding eligibility for HAMP to reduce additional foreclosures, increasing incentives for modifications that help borrowers rebuild equity, and is proposing to put people back to work rehabilitating neighborhoods through Project Rebuild. [WhiteHouse.gov, 2/1/12]

Right-Wing Media Suggest Obama's Plan Is A Charade Designed To Gain Votes

Malkin: Obama Is Re-Inflating The Housing Bubble To "Pander In An Election Year." In a February 1 post on her blog, Michelle Malkin criticized President Obama for outlining his mortgage relief plan saying he was "re-inflating the housing bubble to pander in an election year." From the post:

Ugh. We're back to this again. Yes, President Obama's re-inflating the housing bubble to pander in an election year. Foreclosure avoidance is now a civil right. Long-term consequences be damned.

Obama is outlining a proposal to allow millions more homeowners to refinance their mortgages at lower interest rates even if they owe more than their homes are worth. The White House says the average borrower could save about $3,000 annually.

His first mortgage-mod program was fraud-ridden and failed. So, of course, he's doubling down.

Obama has also promised today to send a homeowner "bill of rights" to Congress.

Maybe he should try abiding by the original one first.

Over the past several years, I've written extensively about the bipartisan housing entitlement culture and the death of the stigma of default. I repeat:

Property-value preservation is not a civil right.

The truth is: Nobody wants to swallow tough truths. They just want their candy. [Michelle Malkin, 2/1/12]

Limbaugh Falsely Claims Obama Will Refinance Everybody's Loans. "All You Have To Do Is Promise To Vote For Him." From the February 1 edition of The Rush Limbaugh Show:

RUSH LIMBAUGH: So what do we do now, folks? That's the question. Everybody wants to know what do we do now? And what we do now is what we should be doing all along. I'll give you an example.

[...]

Obama's on TV this morning. He was in Falls Church, Virginia, doing a campaign speech. And in this appearance he announced yet another plan to bail out people who are underwater in their houses. This - I don't know what this is, HARP 2, HARP 3. We alluded to this a few weeks ago where Obama was going to take people that were underwater and basically refinance their mortgages and have a monthly payment max out at something like six or seven hundred dollars. It's essentially, not quite forgive everybody's mortgage, but the effort was to make them think that was going to happen. That's the reason, one of the many reasons, Obama's out there saying, "Vote for me" today.

We predicted this a few weeks ago, and I think - I'm sure I was the first to predict it. He's promising the government will refinance everybody's loans. No credit checks. No credit checks, no proof of anything. All you have to do is promise to vote for him. And that's implied. That is understood. I mean that's the whole point of it. So how do you fight this? What do we do? The only thing that has ever had a chance from the first days of this election, this campaign, has been to make it about Obama. Every day, in every which way possible, on issues, on Obama's record, on the things he can't defend. That's what needs to happen. That's what our chance is. Our team: not all that good. You know it, and I know it. They're just not. [Premiere Radio Networks, The Rush Limbaugh Show, 2/1/12]

In Fact, Obama's Plan Is Aimed At Helping "Responsible Borrowers." The White House fact-sheet on Obama's plan states that to be eligible for the refinancing program, homeowners must be "current on their mortgage," "meet a minimum credit score," "have a loan that is no larger than the current FHA [Federal Housing Administration] conforming loan limits in their area," and be seeking to refinance "a single family, owner-occupied principal residence." [WhiteHouse.gov, 2/1/12]

Hot Air's Morrissey: Obama Is "Vote Mining Among Underwater Middle-Class Homeowners." From a February 1 post on the right-wing blog Hot Air by Ed Morrissey:

Jim Pethokoukis argued last week that this is Obama's attempt to buy some middle-class support. Republicans may stop it for its new fees on lenders, which will supposedly fund the costs, but certainly not the risks involved in this shell game, but that would also be useful for Obama in vote mining among underwater middle-class homeowners - in fact, it might be more useful than passage. (Republicans could pass it with a provision approving the Keystone XL pipeline and dare Obama to veto it, too.) Its passage will only extend the problem for most of these homeowners, transfer risk from private lenders to taxpayers in many cases, and do nothing to create conditions in which demand rises for housing that would solve the valuation issue. [Hot Air, 2/1/12]

National Review Online: Obama's Mortgage Relief Plan Is To "Serve The Progressive Election-Year Narrative." From a February 1 blog post by Sam Staley at National Review Online:

Sorting out the housing market will indeed be a long-term process. But the long-term solution is bringing the market back into balance after it was thrown out of whack in a not insignificant way by an "ownership society" myth, propagated and subsidized by both Republican and Democratic administrations. And the new housing-finance bureaucracy will struggle against its contradictory missions of making sure households don't buy houses they can't afford (reducing demand) and by making it easier and more straightforward to secure loans (increasing demand). Creating stability in the housing market won't be aided by the new bureaucracy created to rule over the mortgage industry, although it serves the progressive election-year narrative that it's the government that must ride in on a shining white horse to save the common person from the evil bankers. [National Review Online, 2/1/12]

Morrissey: Obama Is Trying "To Buy A Few Votes At The Expense Of Taxpayers And Banks." From Morrissey's post on Hot Air on January 25:

Being underwater on a mortgage is a tough economic position, but no tougher than people who invest in other assets and end up having less value than what they invested. If homeowners find themselves in this position, they can keep paying the mortgage and eventually get above water on equity while continuing to live in their homes, which isn't ideal but certainly isn't an emergency that warrants picking the pockets of other taxpayers. It also won't do anything to prevent or minimize foreclosures, which is one of the actual problems in the housing market. This is nothing more than a bald attempt to buy a few votes at the expense of taxpayers and banks, and it will exacerbate the very problems it purports to address. Game-changer? More like an overtime period. [Hot Air, 1/25/12]

However, Economists Say Streamlined Mortgage Refinancing Would Benefit The Economy

Economist Mark Zandi: "There Is No Better Way To Quickly Buoy Hard-Pressed Homeowners Than Helping Them" Refinance At Current Rates. In a January 24 blog post on the Washington Post website, Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody's Analytics, explained the economic benefits of President Obama's refinancing plan:

The president proposed to allow "every responsible homeowners" the chance to more easily refinance, a savings of about $3,000 annually.

There is no better way to quickly buoy hard-pressed homeowners than helping them take advantage of the currently record low fixed mortgage rates and significantly reduce their monthly mortgage payments.

[...]

Over 30 million homeowners are current on their mortgages and could profitably refinance at the current mortgage rate, which now average less than 4 percent for a 30-year fixed rate. The macroeconomic benefit could be significant. If, say, half refinance in the next six months, then this would save homeowners over $20 billion in mortgage payments this year and double that next year. Homeowners' extra cash will quickly find its way into the economy.

It is important to note that while homeowners will have more cash to spend, investors in these mortgages will receive less interest income. This dilutes the economic benefit of facilitating more refinancing, but only modestly. The biggest mortgage investors include the Federal Reserve (through quantitative easing), Fannie and Freddie, and foreign investors. All mortgage investors are probably a bit surprised they haven't already been refinanced out of their investments. [Washington Post, 1/24/12]

Economist Dean Baker: Obama's Mortgage Refinancing Plan Will "Benefit Communities And The Economy By Limiting The Blight Of Foreclosure And Giving Consumers More Money To Spend." In an email to Media Matters, Dean Baker, co-director of the Center for Economic and Policy Research, stated:

The main thrust of the Obama housing plan is just common sense. It is trying to set up a structure so that underwater homeowners will be able to refinance at low interest rates just like anyone else. This is the sort of support for the housing market that the government has always provided. This can mean the difference for millions of homeowners between keeping and losing their homes. It will also benefit communities and the economy by limiting the blight of foreclosure and giving consumers more money to spend. And, it will be done at very little cost to the government.

The system will not be perfect, but if perfection is the standard for an acceptable policy, then we would never do anything. [Email to Media Matters, 2/1/12]

Former Bush Economic Adviser: Streamlining Mortgage Refinancing "May Benefit Up To 30 Million Borrowers" And "Possible Savings Of $70 Billion Per Year In Lower Mortgage Payments." Glenn Hubbard, former chairman of President George W. Bush's Council of Economic Advisors, outlined the current problems for borrowers under the status quo and explained the economic benefits of increased access to mortgage refinancing in a report titled "Streamlined Refinancings for up to 30 Million Borrowers":

Frictions in the mortgage market have restricted the ability of tens of millions of borrowers from refinancing their mortgages, hampering monetary policy, slowing the economic recovery, and leading to excessive numbers of foreclosures. We propose a streamlined refinancing program that may benefit up to 30 million borrowers with government-backed mortgages, leading to possible savings of $70 billion per year in lower mortgage payments. [GlennHubbard.net, 9/1/11]

Executive Director Of UNC-Chapel Hill's Center For Community Capital: Obama Plan Would "Reduc[e] Losses For Investors ... And Increase Consumer Spending." In an email to Media Matters, Janneke Ratcliffe, the executive director of the Center for Community Capital at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill, wrote:

There is growing evidence that these measures - reduced monthly payments and relief from negative equity - are effective at reducing foreclosures. Unfortunately, many responsible borrowers can't take advantage of today's low rates, and others can't qualify for relief from eroded house values, simply because their loan is owned by the wrong investor or serviced by the wrong servicer.

This plan would offer a refinancing option to millions of underwater homeowners who are current on privately-held mortgages but cannot refinance because of negative equity. The new program would make it easier for the one to two-and-a-half million homeowners that don't have Fannie or Freddie loans but are otherwise eligible for HARP refinancing to lower their monthly housing payments. The proposed changes to the HARP rules would increase competition among services and help more borrowers with Fannie- and Freddie-backed loans to take advantage of lower rates. And the revamped incentives for principal reduction through HAMP should help more of the 12 million underwater borrowers in the U.S. today, more than a quarter of which are already falling behind on their mortgage payments, restructure their loans to reflect current market values.

If implemented, with adequate takeup, these restructurings would yield substantial ripple effects in the form of easing downward pressure on house values, reducing losses for investors and taxpayer-backed mortgage entities, and increased consumer spending. [Email to Media Matters, 2/2/12]

CAP's Associate Director For Financial Markets Policy: Obama's Housing Plan Would "Put More Money In The Hands Of The Average Household." David Min, the associate director for financial markets policy at the Center for American Progress, told Media Matters that if Obama's housing plan were to pass Congress, it "would definitely help the housing market." Min also stated that the plan would "put more money in the hands of the average household by allowing them to refinance their mortgage rate into the lower rates available today" and "help struggling homeowners by providing them with principal reductions." [Email to Media Matters, 2/2/12]

Yglesias: "Obama's Mass Refinancing Plan Could Boost The Economy." In an article headlined "Obama's Mass Refinancing Plan Could Boost the Economy," Matthew Yglesias, Slate's business and economics correspondent, explained how Obama's mortgage refinancing plan would benefit the economy if implemented:

Has the Obama administration finally hit on a job-creation idea that could be a game-changer? It's not clear how big an overall impact it would have, but the new proposal on mortgage refinancing could - if implemented - break a long-standing deadlock in the housing finance market and provide a significant boost to a "recovery winter" scenario.

One major channel through which the kind of low interest rates prevailing today normally help spur economic recovery is that people refinance their mortgages which increases the amount of money they have free to direct toward other things. Indeed, I myself am currently going through the process of refinancing my mortgage. It should end up saving me a few hundred bucks a month plus reducing the life of the loan by a year. Unfortunately, many people currently can't refinance their loans because their mortgage is "underwater." What they owe is more than what the house is worth. This becomes a bit of a recursive issue. Unless economic activity (and therefore incomes) revive, it's difficult for house prices to do anything other than go down. But the low house prices are impeding refinancing-one of the main tools we rely on to boost economic activity. [Slate, 2/1/12]

Obama's Previous Mortgage Relief Plans Have Been Attacked By The Right-Wing Media In The Past

Fox's Tantaros: Obama's Mortgage Plan Is "Purely A Political Stunt." In October 2011, Obama put forward a plan to assist homeowners who are underwater on their mortgages. The right-wing media went on the attack. For instance, during the October 25 edition of Fox News' America's Newsroom, co-host Bill Hemmer asked Fox News contributor Andrea Tantaros, "How vulnerable is this president on the issue of housing going into an election year?" Tantaros replied that Obama is "very vulnerable" and later said that "his plan is purely a political stunt." [Fox News, America's Newsroom, 10/25/11, via Media Matters]

Fox Regular Morici: Obama's Plan Is "A Re-Election Ploy." On the October 25 edition of Fox News' Fox & Friends, co-host Steve Doocy interviewed economist and professor Peter Morici about Obama's mortgage relief plan. Doocy said, "You know, the president is trying to not only keep people in their houses, but to try to keep him in the White House as well with this." Morici agreed, saying, "This is really a re-election ploy, because it's going to create new problems down the road." [Fox News, Fox & Friends, 10/25/11, via Media Matters]

Krauthammer: "[Obama] Knows That This Is A Farce." On the October 24 edition of Fox News' Special Report, Fox News contributor Charles Krauthammer said of Obama's plan, "But Obama is not here about fixing stuff. This is all about framing the debate. This is an appearance of motion. ... He knows that this is a farce." Fox Nation later hyped Krauthammer's commentary in an October 24 post. [Fox News, Special Report, 10/24/11, via Fox Nation]

Dobbs: Obama's New Plan To Help Homeowners Is "Offering Up ... Bribes" So He Can "Get Re-Elected." On the October 24 edition of Fox News' America Live, host Megyn Kelly discussed Obama's plan with Fox Business host Lou Dobbs. Dobbs attacked Obama's plan, saying it was "one of the most irresponsible initiatives [Obama] could take" and later claiming that Obama is "offering up billions - hundreds of billions of dollars in bribes" so that he can "get re-elected." [Fox News, America Live, 10/24/11, via Media Matters]

 

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-55 # barbaratodish 2012-02-05 16:57
If all the people owing mortgages (for homes they are unable to afford) are really "underwater", then Obama needs to provide loans for boats! lol
 
 
+7 # Todd Williams 2012-02-06 05:27
Just hilarious. How f-ing clever.
 
 
+67 # Holyone 2012-02-05 18:19
Right Wingers hate the plan? This is a sure sign that it is a GREAT PLAN!! Score one for the 99%.
 
 
+57 # Virginia 2012-02-05 20:46
Well, Rush - you may be right. There's enough fraud created by your Wall Street pals to go around the world twice over and still have fraud left over. Limbaugh is only on the air and paid the exorbitant salary because the radio industry, a dying medium, is over-leveraged... Not unlike most of corporate America.

The mis-perceptions created by Wall Street banks for loud-mouth blowhards to repeat to their sheep is meant to suppress the truth. The mortgage appraisals were inflated (2003-2008). The underwriting guidelines were systematically abandoned and the bonds were over-rated... The borrowers had no control over any of these bad acts. And the topping on the cake - the mortgage loans were never timely transferred to the the trusts and the Assignments pursuant to NY law are VOID - the REMICs have failed. Check out THE REALITY OF MIS-PERCEPTIONS and THE REMICs HAVE FAILED on www.deadlyclear.com ...and then go tell Rush to shut up!
 
 
+29 # Todd Williams 2012-02-06 05:30
Only fools listen to Limpballs anyhow. First the right bitches that Obama is doing nothing to ease the housing market, then when he comes up with a great plan, they bitch he's pandering for votes. Just what in the fuck will make these idiots happy? Go Obama!
 
 
+20 # lincolnimp 2012-02-05 22:43
You say "pander to voters" like it's a bad thing. I'll vote for any candidate (almost) who "panders to" me. It feels better to be "pandered to" than to be dismissed or unceremoniously shat upon.
 
 
+10 # jimyoung 2012-02-05 22:52
They wouldn't need to foreclose many upside down mortgages if they would just lower the interest rates to current levels. In one case a person is paying an effective 21.75% interest rate on a $172,000 mortgage when the condo is only worth about $50,000. In this economy, a 2% rate would be affordable even with the full principal owed. Ethics far better than the Mortgage Bankers Association (that did a strategic default on their headquarters building) keep us trying to pay the bank and its investors the full principal, but it can't be done as they cling to the original terms. If they persist, they and their investors will lose something like $137,000 with the foreclosure costs added. How stupid and unnecessary is that?

If they lower the rates to current rates they get current interest rates on $137,000 more than the $35,000 they would end up with after foreclosure. I think their investors should insist on making the more sustainable compromise that will give them more return than hanging on to the unsustainable dream that the bankers implied they would get in the irrationally exuberant years.
 
 
+21 # angelfish 2012-02-05 23:35
WHY don't they want to HELP Americans? I can understand them wanting to make money, even SERIOUS money, however, I DON'T understand why they feel the need to grind people into the ground by taking their homes and putting them in the street. It doesn't do ANYBODY any good. Vacant houses devalue neighborhoods. Houses remain unsold, property values decrease, EVERYBODY loses! WHY won't they allow Job Creation? Don't they want this Country to rebound from the Devastating Reagan/Bush Trickle Down Economy Bull-Puckey? They are SERIOUSLY delusional if they think President Obama will bear the brunt of the Public's Wrath when they go to the Polls in November. Hopefully, the new Commission launched by the President into the Banking Industry's Corruption and Responsibility for it's "Meltdown" will eventually bear fruit and bring the guilty Parties to JUSTICE at long last! God Speed you in your endeavors Mr. Schneiderman!
 
 
+14 # Regina 2012-02-05 23:55
The obstinate obstructionists can't let Obama get anything done for the suffering people -- they're working for his failure, remember? Besides, at least some of them might have hauled in some money from (a) sub-prime mortgage gambling and/or (b) superpacs sponsored by finagling banks, so they're "indebted."
 
 
-34 # Robt Eagle 2012-02-06 04:38
Folks, folks, since most of you on this site pay no taxes, this sounds like a great plan to help your struggling bretheren who made poor decisions t buy houses they could ill afford and take out mortgages that they knew they wouldn't be able to repay. But you want to bail them out and help those bad decision makers on the backs of those who chose wisely. Obama's latest plan will blow up as well, probably found to be useless like all his other policies that have proven to be terrible as well. If one can't afford it no one should bail it out, same should have gone for the auto industry where he exchanged the bond holders for the unions (to garner more votes), and bailing out the banks, and Wall St, etc. No one should be able to make bad decisions and get rewarded for it.
 
 
+23 # Todd Williams 2012-02-06 07:41
Eagle, so most of us on this site pay no taxes? That's a pretty big assumption on your part. Besides, it's none of your damn business whether we pay taxes or not. That's a very private issue. I love your last sentance about making bad decsions. How about the bankers, mortgage brokers and financiers who made plenty of bad decisions and walked away with billions in profits? That's okay with you?
 
 
+10 # angelfish 2012-02-06 08:38
What Planet are you from? By the tenor of your comments I can see that you are, most likely, a Reagan/Bush adherent who, like your Idols, have no use for the common man. How DARE you assume that no one here pays taxes? You neglect to mention the larcenous behavior fostered and allowed by your ReTHUG pals. If God is just, and I know He is, the criminals who caused all this financial rape and murder of the middle class will, at LONG last, be brought to Justice! From a Psychological standpoint, I'd like to know what has made you so bitter and unforgiving. Were you severely toilet trained or deprived of daily essentials in some way in your misbegotten youth? You have NO right to judge others without having that very same light shone on YOU! I can only hope that if YOU ever make an intemperate decision, some one like YOU will sit in judgment of it!
 
 
-22 # Robt Eagle 2012-02-06 09:02
Angelfish, the Middle Class is not dead. According to the real numbers, between 80% and 85% of us Americans are still working. It's all the losers who over extended themselves or made bad decisions that the rest of us are, according to most on this site, NEED to cover. That's total BS. I give to charity a lot, and by my choice. Don't tax me to cover the bad mistakes of others. If I want to give to the less fortunate, I will give of my own heart, but taxing us is lunacy.
 
 
+11 # angelfish 2012-02-06 09:21
Doesn't it Gall you to know that Romney didn't work for the past two (2) years yet managed to earn $40,000,000.00+ (that Forty MILLION plus!) and gave more to his "church" than he paid in taxes? I think there is something SERIOUSLY wrong with that. I think that the Tax structure needs a complete overhaul with the Wealthy paying their FAIR share of the Tax burden. Do you REALLY think they deserve a free ride simply BECAUSE they are rich? I pay taxes and I resent it when the rich pay proportionately LESS than I do as a retiree on a FIXED income!
 
 
-3 # Robt Eagle 2012-02-07 04:18
How does Romney giving to his church hurt you? How does Romney making all that money take away from your life? You are so consumed with hating the rich for what reason? Get off your ass and make yourself rich. Stop worrying about the guy who made it and YOU make it.
 
 
+2 # angelfish 2012-02-07 10:47
Quoting
How does Romney giving to his church hurt you? How does Romney making all that money take away from your life? You are so consumed with hating the rich for what reason? Get off your ass and make yourself rich. Stop worrying about the guy who made it and YOU make it.

I DON'T hate the rich. I DESPISE the Greedy and Entitled who think BECAUSE they are rich they deserve MORE of everything. They have BOUGHT our Supreme Court and our Congress (ReTHUGS and "Blue Dogs) who now makes LAW to assist them in the ruination of working people! I'm happy that Romney can donate to his "church", I was just stating the AMAZING fact that he is so wealthy he is ABLE to donate MORE to his "church" than he pays in Taxes to the Government that ENABLED him to garner the wealth he and his family enjoys! I made a comfortable living when I worked. ALL Americans should be able to that VERY same thing! WHERE are the jobs? India! China! The Phillippines! WHERE does an American go for a job today! Again, I ask YOU, WHY are you so angry? WHO horrified you in your youth? You have NOT addressed those questions! WHY do you hate poor working people?
 
 
+11 # angelfish 2012-02-06 09:26
P.S. I ALSO give to the Charities of my choosing and I don't mind paying taxes as long as we are ALL on an even playing field. It hasn't been "even" In a long, LONG time! I don't believe that taxes are used to "cover the bad mistakes of others", I think that SOME Mega Wealthy individuals as well as the Banks, and some other unscrupulous businesses, manipulate the laws for their OWN enrichment.
 
 
+10 # Todd Williams 2012-02-06 10:03
You still failed to answer comments that said most people on this site do not pay taxes. Nor have you addressed my comment regarding the billions made by profiteers in this debacle. As with most people on the far right, you ignore questions and switch to another topic.
 
 
-1 # Robt Eagle 2012-02-07 04:20
Todd, I think the likes of Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd should be in jail. The SEC chairman, the head of FINRA, the execs at S&P, Moody's, and Fitch should also be in jail for not doing their jobs and protecting the American people. But the dumb asses who over extended themselves, no they should suffer the consequences. Get real and be responsible for your own actions and/or inactions.
 
 
+5 # Billsy 2012-02-06 10:15
You sound like something out of Dickens novel. "Are there no work houses?" God forbid anyone in need has to depend upon "your heart".
 
 
+6 # Majikman 2012-02-06 09:08
As usual, Mr. Eagle is seriously confused. He thinks we're part of the 1%. Too funny.
 
 
-3 # Robt Eagle 2012-02-07 04:22
Hey Maj, if I am part of the 1% it is because I earnedevery penny of it and haven't sat on my ass complaining.
 
 
-4 # parcheymex 2012-02-06 05:17
I think the debacle we have been calling the housing bubble should be renamed the great SPOOF! It all goes back to how seldom anyone ever analyses what a 30 year mortgage really means. Let's compare, for example, how much gold a 30 year fixed mortgage gives to a bank as opposed (compared) to the dividend payments a corporation pays to stock buyers. Uhuhhh, I think you can see what I mean. It's all a matter of relative value. When we (private borrowers) sign a 30 year fixed rate mortgage we are offering a boondoggle to a bank. Really, American consumers have you ever really objectively thought what kind of a deal you are offering up?
 
 
+7 # JohnWayne 2012-02-06 05:31
We've come to the point now where the actual issue/point of contention is totally irrelevant. From now on only three words are necessary to describe the sum and substance of all right-wing reactions: "Insane About Hussein." So the question boils down to this: Do you want these people in the White House? State Houses? Capitol Hill? Governor's mansions? County commissioners seat? Dogcatcher's office?
 
 
-8 # RLF 2012-02-06 05:48
This is pandering. Why didn't he come up with this plan 3 years ago instead of paying Goldman 100% on aig securitization insurance. He could have made those securities good and forgotten about the bailout but he was too busy paying off the bankers that put him in office.
 
 
+21 # fredboy 2012-02-06 07:32
The photo of Jabba the Rush reminds all that he and his hate radio clones are not media, they are simply the whore tools of the more perverse elements of politics. I no longer dub them the "right" because they are almost always wrong.

The tragedy is so many stupid people are ensnared in their rhetoric.
 
 
+16 # humanmancalvin 2012-02-06 07:33
Seriously, is anyone the least bit surprised that the Tea Bagging party is critical of any decision our president makes?
I give credit when its due and I give the GOP credit for distorting, manipulating, and lying about every single thing that President Obama does.
Never allow these destroyers of American life anywhere near the White House. Never.
 
 
-20 # Robt Eagle 2012-02-06 09:06
humanmancalvin, Obama has failed miserably in every policy he has undertaken. It is on record that everything he has done has cost the TAX PAYERS lots of money that has been wasted. Solyndra is just the tip of the iceberg. Eric Holder is also letting all the crap that is politically correct get away with this nonsense. If it hurts the opposition Holder's team goes after them, if it helps the Obama Administration to let these real thugs go, then Holder finds a reason to let them slide. It is Chicago politics on a Federal level and it is tearing this country apart. If you don't see the corruption going on then you have your Dem/Progressive/Leftist/Liberal head buried in the sand. Wake up and see it for what is really being done here.
 
 
+10 # bugbuster 2012-02-06 09:53
Robt Eagle, it's easy to see how desperately you want all of this stuff you write to be true. Have you ever asked yourself why?

Do you have any real stake in this society? Or would its complete destruction bring you satisfaction because it happened on Obama's watch? Would that validate you to yourself? Is that what you need in order to be someone?

Or are just some bored loser whiling away your time at a boring job or no job at all and nothing better to do than indulge your addiction to the taste of bile?

(Before you ask, I'm at a job with long periods of inactivity punctuated by short periods of frantic firefighting, figuratively speaking.) I'm addicted to this too. But I do like to think my own thoughts, or at least I try. I recommend it to you. I recommend looking around at the people near you and think in literal terms about their lives and how these things affect them. Do you really want their lives to go in the crapper just so Obama can fail and prove you right?
 
 
+5 # Todd Williams 2012-02-06 13:46
Of course he feels that way, Mr. Bug. He wants our society to fail and fall into depression. That way his racist, anti-Obama rants will be justified. You heard Mitch McConnel rant after Obama was elected. He said the number one goal was to make O a one term pres. These righties will sacrifice our country to destroy O.
 
 
-3 # Robt Eagle 2012-02-07 04:27
Bug, one of my jobs is sitting watching the ocean waiting for something to happen, and then when it does action takes place and lives are at stake. If I, or one of my co-workers, screw up, people drown. And where I work we make thousands of ocean rescues a summer with multiple victims on most rescues. So don't give me that BS. I know what it is to train and work my ass off. I also use my brain during the week and help people make the right decisions...people who take responsibility for what they do in life. They don't complain about those who have more, they work harder to better themselves, as do I.
 
 
+17 # JayS 2012-02-06 07:47
The banks were made whole on their bad mortgages. This is a good start for the homeowners to get some relief. Actually, their mortgages should be forgiven. The banks are double dipping. They should actually repay the bailout money if they want to continue collecting on the mortgages.
 
 
+12 # cordleycoit 2012-02-06 07:47
The Rush man is yet again doing junkie logic. As the spokesman for the Rethugs he wants to to be as mean as Chaney without having to shoot a lawyer. He was a very successful parrot for the money crowd until the great brain did an Arthur Godfrey and flew off to LaLa Land.
It is too bad the Administration has adapted a passive aggressive stance to deal with the party of sociopaths and power junkies.
 
 
+5 # Todd Williams 2012-02-06 10:10
Not to mention he's a known drug junkie who escaped prosecution because he's rich. But that's okay with the right wing!
 
 
+14 # SusanT136 2012-02-06 08:01
SO let's see - the FED made $9 trillion in secret overnight emergency loans to banks (in addition to the bailout money!!) at 0% interest or just above. Hmmm...I don't remember the Oxy-Contin guy bitching about that, or regarding that as "pandering". There was no huge outcry about how bankruptcy is "not a civil right". Nor is it a civil right to make vast amounts of money by floating those astronomically huge no interest loans through a few interest bearing instruments.

To give homeowners the chance to re-fi at 2%-4% (at best) is a no brainer. They should have been doing cramdowns this whole time.
 
 
+6 # tedrey 2012-02-06 09:05
So the right calls doing something that constituents dearly want is "pandering" for their votes? Isn't insisting on, for instance, no tax cuts for the rich "pandering" for their money?
 
 
-18 # Robt Eagle 2012-02-06 09:10
Susan, so ther you have it, ALL of Obama's policies have been failures. He let's the individuals and institutions that can favor him off scott free, or better yet gives them money from the tax payers, then he and Eric Holder NEVER prosecute the real criminals. Holder is a complete failure, he needs to be put out of his position and get a real law enforcement person in there. Someone who will go after all the criminals including Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd to start off with...
 
 
+8 # Todd Williams 2012-02-06 10:16
Oh, now there's an original statement. Come on there Eagle my man, you gotta come up with something fresh. The old Chris Dodd/Barney Frank routine is getting rather stale, don't you think? How come you right wingers fall back on the same threadbare anti-Obama routines? Hey, how come you haven't suggested recycling old John Ashcroft to replace Holder? You're living in the past man. The new world's passing you by, Eagle. I hope they put up a windfarm and solar array next to your house so that you'll be forced to either move or watch free energy in the making.
 
 
-5 # reiverpacific 2012-02-06 10:07
that have proven to be terrible as well. If one can't afford it no one should bail it out, same should have gone for the auto industry where he exchanged the bond holders for the unions (to garner more votes), and bailing out the banks, and Wall St, etc. No one should be able to make bad decisions and get rewarded for it.
Quoting
Folks, folks, since most of you on this site pay no taxes, this sounds like a great plan to help your struggling bretheren who made poor decisions t buy houses they could ill afford and take out mortgages that they knew they wouldn't be able to repay. But you want to bail them out and help those bad decision makers on the backs of those who chose wisely. Obama's latest plan will blow up as well, probably found to be useless like all his other policies that have proven to be terrible as well. If one can't afford it no one should bail it out, same should have gone for the auto industry where he exchanged the bond holders for the unions (to garner more votes), and bailing out the banks, and Wall St, etc. No one should be able to make bad decisions and get rewarded for it.
 
 
0 # reiverpacific 2012-02-06 12:42
Quoting
that have proven to be terrible as well. If one can't afford it no one should bail it out, same should have gone for the auto industry where he exchanged the bond holders for the unions (to garner more votes), and bailing out the banks, and Wall St, etc. No one should be able to make bad decisions and get rewarded for it.

Quoting
Folks, folks, since most of you on this site pay no taxes, this sounds like a great plan to help your struggling bretheren who made poor decisions t buy houses they could ill afford and take out mortgages that they knew they wouldn't be able to repay. But you want to bail them out and help those bad decision makers on the backs of those who chose wisely. Obama's latest plan will blow up as well, probably found to be useless like all his other policies that have proven to be terrible as well. If one can't afford it no one should bail it out, same should have gone for the auto industry where he exchanged the bond holders for the unions (to garner more votes), and bailing out the banks, and Wall St, etc. No one should be able to make bad decisions and get rewarded for it.

Sorry, I don't know how this got posted; I musta hit a wrong button. I mostly ignore RE now as he can't answer a simple question about right wing site access for the opposition + he's (or it's) so damn predictable and bereft of constructive ideas -only negative ideology. Mea-maxima-culpa-crappy typing
 
 
0 # pernsey 2012-02-08 13:03
The only plan right wingers have is to stop Obama from helping anyone. Any plan he comes up with they find a reason to trash it. Even Rusch's ridiculousness just makes them all seem like they have no plan but to block anything Obama tries to do.

Conservatism has been turned into Irrationalism. Rusch sounds like a complete moron...as he is one!
 

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